mercredi 5 janvier 2005

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57 commentaires:

Flocon a dit…

Men...

They're all the same

Anijo a dit…

Flocon,

You might appreciate this

Anijo a dit…

One thing I know for sure is that all men are not the same. Just as all women are not the same. Although many samples from both genders are phuckers.

Anijo a dit…

Flocon,

You have been exploring string quartets. And now this piece in a minor key by Philip Glass with some angst that I sense.

Flocon a dit…

Anijo,

Je connaissais le nom de Wynton Marsalis (not even sure) donc je suis allé voir who you know.

Un des commentaires s'étonne de ce que les gens ne réagissent pas. I'm no totally surprised here.

La scène a été tournée en France et pas dans une salle de concert. On dirait une tente provisoire dans une petite ville de province. And both are sitting on simple stools...

Quelqu'un doit traduire ce que dit Wynton parce que les gens ne le comprennent évidemment pas. S'il s'était agi de vrais amateurs il n'y aurait pas eu besoin de traduire, les fans de jazz comprennent l'anglais.

J'imagine que Marsalis a dû donner une petite représentation to people who've never heard of him and who aren't accustomed to his music. Hence their apparent lack of reaction.
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J'ai changé la première pièce de Glass pour mettre son 5ème quatuor à cordes (1er mvt) qui est de facture romantique avec ce qui lui appartient (repetitivness). j'aime bien.

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Il y a peu de compositeurs américains qui se soient intéressés au quatuor à cordes.

Charles Ives, Philip Glass et surtout Samuel Barber. Il y a en a d'autres mais presque inconnus comme ce Milton Adolphus qui en a écrit 35!!!

Anijo a dit…

Un des commentaires s'étonne de ce que les gens ne réagissent pas. I'm no totally surprised here.

Il y a toujours pleins de commentaires ridicules sur youtube. "Les gens" sont des petits.

La ville est Marciac

A great emphasis is placed on Jazz music in the town, which is taught as a regular subject in local schools(The towns college). The town itself is famous for its annual 'Jazz in Marciac' festival, held for a fortnight in August.

Here is another clip from Marciac which clearly shows that he's talking to young kids. Also there's this note:
Filmed in Marciac, France, in August 2007, Wynton with the help fo Victor Goines, taught the fundamentals of jazz music to a group of local elementary school students.

Anijo a dit…

les fans de jazz comprennent l'anglais.

I have a good friend who lives in Paris. He writes articles about Jazz, takes photographs, and arranges concerts. He speaks English fluently. He took me to a small jazz 'concert' which was held in the basement of a bookstore. There were about 30 people there all sitting on the floor. The jazz musician was an american black guy who didn't speak a word of French. No one translated when he spoke. The crowd was friendly and warm. A very interesting evening for me that I'll never forget.

Anijo a dit…

Ah je me souviens. Le concert solo de Sonny Simmons a eu lieu en sous sol de la Librairie Apsara, 44 Rue Daguerre.

La photo au dessus n'est pas de Sonny Simmons. Le voilà ce jour là.

Flocon a dit…

Anijo,

What I meant is that I wasn't surprised by the lack of reactions from the audience, I didn't think of the comment.

Silly me! The name Marciac is written at the very beginning of the video. Le festival de jazz de Marciac est très connu en effet. Il y a même un article sur Wiki, Jazz in Marciac.

Such a festival in a little city with hardly 1,200 inhabitants!

La rue Daguerre est bien connue car s'y tient un marché très populaire et c'est un quartier assez bobo like mine...

So the picture are yours?

Anijo a dit…

I did not take the pictures. This is the Frenchman who might have taken the pictures as he is an aficionado of all things jazz, and has presented his photographs of jazz musicians in exhibits in France and other European countries. He is the one who invited me to this event at Librairie Apsara. Tu lui connais Flocon ?

Anijo a dit…

Such a festival in a little city with hardly 1,200 inhabitants!

Indeed! There are more Frenchies, by far, who appreciate jazz these days, than there are Americans who appreciate jazz. In this village of Marciac, the young kids have lessons in jazz at school! How cool is that? ☺

Flocon a dit…

Non je ne connaissais pas Jacques Bisceglia Anijo, but now I do.

Une photo de Hank Mobley que je ne connaissais pas non plus.

Le jazz est très apprécié en Europe, it's not specific to France.

Mon ami qui sait tout donne la liste des festivals de jazz du monde entier.

Les enfants de Marciac doivent recevoir quelques leçons de jazz mais certainement pas tout au long de l'année.

Flocon a dit…

Contrairement à ce que j'ai écrit plus haut, il y a plus d'une vingtaine de compositeurs américains qui ont écrit des quatuors à cordes.

Voici le troisième et dernier de Conlon Nancarrow.

(il y a un très long intervalle silencieux entre 2:21 et 2:53)

Ils sont évidemment tous nés au XXème siècle donc il ne faut pas s'attendre à du Debussy et encore moins à du Mozart.

J'aime tout particulièrement les sonorités des quatuors du XXème. Dutilleux, Bartok, Glass, Chostakovich etc.

Anijo a dit…

I did a Google search on Arthru. This spam bot posts all over the place on different French forums, stating that his native language is English, Spanish, Arabic, Mandaring, you name it. What's the point of it all?

Anijo a dit…

I've also discovered that the arthru spam is from Canada.

Flocon a dit…

Je n'aurais pas pensé à faire cette recherche...

Bon, j'ai supprimé tous ces messages et je les laisserai dans la spambox à présent. I'll keep you informed ;-)

Comme tu dis, what's the point anyway?

There are many subdued people on earth but at least there was no violence in the messages.

And what about the last one? (It is too late to lock the stable-door when the horse is stolen)

ô-Ô

Flocon a dit…

For your next stay in Paris may I suggest this place Anijo?

Also here are 10 things to do in 24 hours.

Tough luck then!

And a portrait of the man who dragged the US into action in Libya

Anijo a dit…

Flocon, your suggestion is quite extravagant. You could have suggested that I stay here in this room while you're at it!

The nicest room I ever stayed in was here. But that was a long time ago. Which reminds me of this unusual location in Paris that I've been to. I took Brigitte there (when she came up from Marseille to spend a few days with me in Paris) and the place gave her the creeps big time. She's a tad superstitious and said that she could feel the presence of ghosts, lol

The last time I went to Paris, I stayed here for a few nights.

I've already done most of the ten suggestions (with the exception of the restaurants), but certainly not in 24 hours!

Flocon a dit…

Le Trianon Palace de Versailles! A Waldorf Astoria hotel!!!

I knew you were one the Mesillean socialites Anijo ;-)

Quant à la chapelle expiatoire du square Louis XVI je l'ai visitée il y a 25 ans.

L'endroit est étonnamment calme dans un quartier de Paris aussi animé.

Un site existe qui lui est consacrée.

Thanks to your link to Wiki, I've added one short sentence to the article.

Anijo a dit…

L'endroit est étonnamment calme dans un quartier de Paris aussi animé.
Oui, j'y ai remarqué la même chose. This location does have a rather unusual air about it.


Thanks to your link to Wiki, I've added one short sentence to the article

I'm curious. What was the short sentence that you added?

Anijo a dit…

Was this the sentence?
Louis XVIII fit élever ce monument, inauguré en 1826.

Flocon a dit…

I also remember how cold it was inside the crypt though it was during the month of August 1988.

Yes, you've found the short sentence. Au bas de chaque page de Wiki il y a l'indication de la dernière modification.

Dans ce cas : Dernière modification de cette page le 30 avril 2011 à 21:55 [T'was me ;-) ]

Flocon a dit…

Another American socialite in Paris

Anijo a dit…

Anijo, the New Mexican socialite at the Trianon Palace. Said New Mexican socialite at a manor house in Normandy.

And same socialite viewing a map a France dreaming of her adventures in France.

Flocon a dit…

Superman has turned unAmerican!

Anijo a dit…

Flocon,

Connais-tu Anthony Bourdain ?

Flocon a dit…

Non Anijo, je ne connaissais pas Anthony Bourdain but now I do ;-)

Il doit vraiment être très connu puisqu'il y a des articles en 13 langues sur Wiki including Chinese, Turkish and... Telugu!!!

Anijo a dit…

Flocon,
Telugua? You must be referring to this one.

How did you know it was Teluga? You're one smart cookie!

Bourdain travels around the world for his show, so that explains why he's so well known. He has a pretty good episode when he went to France that you can find on youtube. However, he gets a bad mark for making reference to Jerry Lewis. Shame on him.

Flocon a dit…

"How did you know it was Teluga?"

No rocket science really...

When you open the translation page on Google there is this "Detect language" option.

Je m'en sers pour distinguer le russe de l'ukrainien ou du Bulgare (not that it's much useful either...) ou encore le Bengali du sanskrit etc.

Si j'étais intéressé par food and kitchen je connaîtrais (peut-être) Antony Bourdain mais je ne suis pas du tout dans cette sphère d'intérêt.

En fait je me nourris pour m'entretenir mais pas du tout pour mon plaisir.

Anijo a dit…

En fait je me nourris pour m'entretenir mais pas du tout pour mon plaisir

Eh ben, alors, t'es sûr que t'es un homme français? ;-)

Pour moi, c'est pas le food and kitchen qui m'intéresse, c'est la culture des pays où il va.

I've noticed that most French people are really into food. When I was staying with "DAD" he placed some sausage and cheese on the table and I ate the sausage and cheese together. He was shocked! But then the couple that I stayed with in Paris the last time I went there served the worst food I've ever consumed. Okay, not the worst, but it was pretty bad. And they didn't even drink wine. So much for stereotypes...

Flocon a dit…

"t'es sûr que t'es un homme français?"

Hmmm... Now that you ask me I come to question myself.


"So much for stereotypes..."

Tous les Américains ne sont pas intéressés par les football ou le Base-ball like all Brits aren't fanatics of cricket, rugby or football either.

Not all Germans are beer thirsty or Spaniards enjoy corrida...

Cela dit, il y a recrudescence des émissions consacrées à la nourriture et à la cuisine sur les chaînes de télé françaises, that's a fact.

Si je ne suis pas intéressé par la nourriture it may be that I have overpassed the oral stage. ;-)

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Here is someone who believes women wearing the niqab in France (where it is now forbidden in public spaces) are likely to be jailed.

They only risk a 150 € fine (so far there have been 20 cases) but certainly not jail. Also they're not forced to discard their niqab.

Also the French cop is portrayed like he looked like 40 years ago.


Another unintended mistake by a cartoonist who seemingly mistakes the 1789 Revolution with the 1830 one.

Quand il est question de la Révolution française on sous-entend toujours celle de 1789.

Ce dessin enfin s'adresse uniquement aux Américains.

Anijo a dit…

Ce dessin enfin s'adresse uniquement aux Américains

Ah oui. Comme je l'avais déjà dit: truthers, birthers and deathers, that is, conspiracy tin-foil wearing hatters.

Bibartisanship is an effort to listen to other people, and to attempt to avoid rubber stamp any particular point of view, and to attempt to be as rational as is humanly possible in an attempt to understand others.

Anijo a dit…

Here is someone who believes women wearing the niqab in France (where it is now forbidden in public spaces) are likely to be jailed

Not only will the women not be jailed, but perhaps they might eventually experience some freedom from the suffocating insistence on the submission of women by extremist Islamists. And yet, perhaps not. So many of these women have been so thoroughly subjugated and have become so thoroughly submissive, that they are not even aware of their situation.

Flocon a dit…

"And yet, perhaps not. So many of these women have been so thoroughly subjugated and have become so thoroughly submissive, that they are not even aware of their situation."

Je crois en effet que la plupart ne pourront plus jamais sortir de l'état de soumission mentale qui est le leur.

Je vais faire un billet sur le sujet. C'est noté pour ne pas l'oublier.

Quand la loi a été votée puis mise en application, la majorité des lecteurs/commentateurs américains sur le NYT et le lien Fox-News que tu avais donné approuvait this French move.

Flocon a dit…

Ce soir il y a un reportage consacré à Suzan Sontag sur ARTE.

Si vous voulez l'entendre parler français, voici une vidéo (8') de son passage à Apostrophes (Bernard Pivot) le 8 juin 1979.

J'ai probablement vu l'émission à l'époque mais je n'avais pas la moindre idée de qui était Suzan Sontag

Flocon a dit…

The lady cheese shop

Where have Hillary Clinton and Audrey Tomason gone?

Anijo a dit…

The Lady Cheese Shop... Now that is just too weird! Where do you find these things Flocon? lol

Because of laws of modesty, we are not allowed to publish pictures of women

wtf? I never knew how sexy Hillary Clinton was to Jewish men. ☺

Anijo a dit…

btw, Flocon, I forgot to thank you for the link to the Susan Sontag video. She seems to speak French quite well. I couldn't detect too much of an American accent.

Flocon a dit…

Sontag parle très bien le français avec juste quelques petites imprécisions. Elle a un léger accent américain en effet, un accent doux (not only a slight one but also a soft one).

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"Because of laws of modesty, we are not allowed to publish pictures of women

wtf? I never knew how sexy Hillary Clinton was to Jewish men."


I'm afraid it has nothing to do with what we understand under the word 'modesty' and much to do with the simple fact that she's a woman.

Orthodox Jews are as tolerant toward women than foundamentalist Muslims.

See here for example.

Anijo a dit…

Orthodox Jews are as tolerant toward women than foundamentalist Muslims.

Forgive for correcting you here, but I've noticed that you employ this grammatical construction frequently. It should be, "Orthodox Jews are as tolerant toward women as fundamentalist Muslims".

And yes, I'm aware of how backwards the orthodox Jews are. My comment was made tongue in cheek.

Flocon a dit…

Merci de la correction Anijo. Et pourtant, c'est une règle que l'on apprend à 13 ans : as... as, as much...as.

Pourquoi l'ai-je oubliée? C'est comme "save" que j'ai correctement employé pendant des années et puis je suis passé à "safe" (!) until you corrected me.

What a drag it is getting old...

Anijo a dit…

What a drag it is getting old...

Rires !

I understand. I'm no spring chicken myself. ;-D

Flocon a dit…

Une Américaine au pays de la séduction

Y a t-il autant de livres de journalistes américains sur l'Italie, l'Espagne, la grande-Bretagne, l'Allemagne etc.?

Flocon a dit…

Another book with interesting information re Americans in Paris during the XIXth.

How Paris created America.

Flocon a dit…

Obama says No you can't!

Anijo a dit…

Obama says "No you can't" LOL!

Quelle photo...

Anijo a dit…

Another book with interesting information re Americans in Paris during the XIXth.

This book was reviewed by the morning news shows. I read David McCullough's book 'Truman', which was an excellent read.

Anijo a dit…

J'aime bien jouer avec Maukie. ☺

Flocon a dit…

Try tickling his tail and ears...

Also when you tickle him on his belly he purrs... When you're on his head he miaows and when the arrow hovers above his head he tries to catch it with his pawns...

I'm not sure I'll let the picture too long, you know how Ned dislikes these dumb pictures... ;-)

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Doesn't Strauss Kahn look like he's gonna jump on Michelle? And Obama is coolin' him down!

Anijo a dit…

Also when you tickle him on his belly he purrs... When you're on his head he miaows and when the arrow hovers above his head he tries to catch it with his pawns.

And his little head follows the cursor... too cute.

Yes, it sure does look like Obama is coolin'him down. Obama has his hand on DSK holding him off from getting too close to Michelle and the expression on Obama's face is not one of approval, lol..

Flocon a dit…

Anijo, you might have enjoyed being here.

And I have to read the NYT to learn what's happening in my home city!

Well, I had no idea but also, the title says it all : How 10,000 People Keep a Secret

Anijo a dit…

And I have to read the NYT to learn

I have no clue what this is all about. I have been in the courtyard of the Louvre, but that's about all I understand about this nonsense.

Anijo a dit…

I've explained to you many times, Flocon, and I'll explain it again. Most of the times I've been to Paris, I've spent most of those days with friends who live in Paris spending an enjoyable time with them. When I went to Paris the second time, yes, my husband at the time and I had the pleasure of experiencing quite a few tourist-oriented places and we had some nice meals in a number of restaurants which were rated three or four stars, and we stayed in a number of hostels and hotels that were rated three or four stars, but for the most part, Paris is a reminder of my friends who live there. I've spent a number of days staying with said Parisian friends and we enjoyed one another as human beings. That's it. Point finale.

The friends I have in Paris don't go on and on and on about the differences between Americans and the French. We just enjoy one another as human beings who speak a different native language and have different experiences in life.

I also spent some time with some French people in the Corrèze. None of them spoke hardly any English, and my French isn't all that great, and yet we connected as people, not as French vs American. I find the simplistic difference between the two cultures to be, well, simplistic...

Get it?

Anijo a dit…

Also, could you please stop with the 'All American' babes bullshit? Why play this game? I find it annoying.

Flocon a dit…

It's nice to see you're in an upbeat, positive and friendly mood in the evening Anijo...

What part didn't you understand in the NYT article that I linked to?

To my big surprise I learn there has been a giant picnic in the courtyard of the Louvre as well as on the parvis of Notre Dame a couple of weeks ago and that the Frenchman's son who created the concept some years ago will organize a similar event in New York.

I thought that was an interesting and unusual piece of news worth being shared and then you go ranting about the memories of the time you spent with your friends and former hubby in Paris, people who wouldn't go on and on and on about the differences between Americans and the French.

Uh? Wouldn't it be nice if you'd stopped for a second to read in my posts or comments subliminal comparisons between the US and France, Americans and French, kinda mine is bigger than yours?

Get it?

I run this little blog in a friendly and courteous manner and you currently seem to always be on the verge to enter the war path.

Bizarre... ?

Christine a dit…

Flocon,
Anijo a du sang indien probablement! Elle fumera vite le calumet de la paix avec vous...

Effectivement, je constate tout comme vous Flocon, la tendance des gens à comparer systématiquement les habitudes, moeurs et coutumes des uns ou des autres, des pays, des régions. Les gens se trouvent tout à coup dans une attitude défensive parce qu'ils ont du mal à accepter la critique qu'ils faisaient eux-mêmes dans d'autres circonstances. C'est dommage que cette foutue affaire DSK mette la pagaille dans les relations: dire que la justice américaine fonctionne d'une façon contestable - encore qu'elle est capable de réexaminer les faits et déclarations très rapidement- ce n'est pas encenser la nôtre. Nous n'avons plus confiance en notre justice. En tout cas, moi...

Votre image No, you can't m'a fait éclater de rire...

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