tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-186849324750028115.post2588481419715803582..comments2023-07-23T14:10:14.460+02:00Comments on Shall we talk?: The enemies of AmericaFloconhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02152293520895506516noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-186849324750028115.post-21395112433236588252007-10-20T00:34:00.000+02:002007-10-20T00:34:00.000+02:00"Vous frôlez l'incorrection ici l'amerloque.""Il e..."Vous frôlez l'incorrection ici l'amerloque."<BR/><BR/>"Il est facile de croire qu'on a répondu parce qu'on n'a pas su se taire"<BR/>St Augustin, Cité de Dieu<BR/>(L.V, chap 27)<BR/><BR/>J'ai l'impression d'entendre la maitresse reprendre l'élève au collège.<BR/><BR/>Pour mémoire<BR/><BR/>Jamais chat emmitouflé ne prit sourisAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-186849324750028115.post-1580835688446784332007-10-19T11:28:00.000+02:002007-10-19T11:28:00.000+02:00L'amerloque1° "In the mouths of most, the use of t...L'amerloque<BR/><BR/>1° <I>"In the mouths of most, the use of the word "paranoia" is meant to be an insult, similar to the use of the word "xenophobe". Based on past performance, Amerloque has (had) no reason to assume otherwise, here."</I><BR/><BR/><B>In the mouth of most</B>...<BR/><B>Here</B>...<BR/>Vous frôlez l'incorrection ici l'amerloque.<BR/><BR/>2° <I>"A ridiculous argument, with all dueFloconhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02152293520895506516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-186849324750028115.post-53456555190934074782007-10-18T16:06:00.000+02:002007-10-18T16:06:00.000+02:00Hi Flocon ! /*/ …/… I've always noticed the same r...Hi Flocon ! <BR/><BR/><BR/>/*/ …/… I've always noticed the same reaction when the word "paranoia" is uttered. Like it was a sin or a maladie honteuse... …/… /*/<BR/><BR/><BR/>In the mouths of most, the use of the word "paranoia" is meant to be an insult, similar to the use of the word "xenophobe". Based on past performance, Amerloque has (had) no reason to assume otherwise, here.<BR/><BR/><BR/>/*L'Amerloquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03447075237256204460noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-186849324750028115.post-42385628929170695922007-10-18T15:10:00.000+02:002007-10-18T15:10:00.000+02:00Flocon,//There's always a base to a paranoid state...Flocon,<BR/><BR/><EM>//There's always a base to a paranoid state but it is usually a tiny one which is overblown and given a monstruous disproportion with reality.//</EM><BR/><BR/>This is where I disagree, there is not ALWAYS a base, there is SELDOM a base. <BR/><BR/>Here's the difference I see (and then I'll let this one go):<BR/><BR/>What you describe here, to me, sounds more like LA Sunsethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00445498119590721449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-186849324750028115.post-50070921565495666812007-10-18T14:34:00.000+02:002007-10-18T14:34:00.000+02:00Greg,"Europeans haven't experienced the type of ex...Greg,<BR/><BR/><I>"Europeans haven't experienced the type of extreme hatred that we see on a daily basis on the news</I><BR/>One may ask the question: why so much hatred? I'm afraid the <I>"they hate us because we're free"</I> line won't be accepted.<BR/><BR/>Now, American flag burnings I have seen on my TV set all along the 60's in many countries all over the world. Even in GB. Do the British Floconhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02152293520895506516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-186849324750028115.post-4910947181076357712007-10-18T14:19:00.000+02:002007-10-18T14:19:00.000+02:00LA"Paranoia is a baseless fear"Not exactly. There'...LA<BR/><BR/><I>"Paranoia is a baseless fear"</I><BR/><BR/>Not exactly. There's always a base to a paranoid state but it is usually a tiny one which is overblown and given a monstruous disproportion with reality.<BR/><BR/>Please, note that I didn't write that "Americans" were paranoid but I just stated that, for a Frenchman, reading the "The enemies of our country" line is an instant reminder of Floconhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02152293520895506516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-186849324750028115.post-47019430883209132402007-10-18T11:46:00.000+02:002007-10-18T11:46:00.000+02:00Hi l'amerloque"It is clear (to Amerloque, anyway) ...Hi l'amerloque<BR/><BR/><I>"It is clear (to Amerloque, anyway) that Flocon is accusing "the Americans" of "paranoia" because of repeated references to "the enemies of America."</I><BR/><BR/>When I say, suggest, propose that my neighbourg suffers from a tooth cavity I'm not <B>accusing</B> him of anything. Just suggesting he suffers from a tooth cavity.<BR/>Your insistance about me <B>accusing</B>Floconhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02152293520895506516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-186849324750028115.post-14724389970894506372007-10-18T04:30:00.000+02:002007-10-18T04:30:00.000+02:00Flocon,//I'm afraid I simply don't understand what...Flocon,<BR/><BR/><EM>//I'm afraid I simply don't understand what you mean. We probably don't share the same understanding of the word "paranoia".//</EM><BR/><BR/>Paranoia is a baseless fear. We have something to base these fears on. Any country that has been attacked in some form or fashion would have reason to say there are enemies of that particular state. <BR/><BR/>What I see are three LA Sunsethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00445498119590721449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-186849324750028115.post-46491861653103100562007-10-17T16:44:00.000+02:002007-10-17T16:44:00.000+02:00This is a very common misunderstanding b/w Europea...This is a very common misunderstanding b/w Europeans and Americans. <BR/><BR/>Most Europeans will tell you that America has way overreacted to 9/11, and that militant islam is not such a big threat - certainly not an existential one.<BR/><BR/>I think the reason for the misunderstanding is that European countries simply aren't the target that America is. I mean, Ahmadinejad doesn't have his Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-186849324750028115.post-13130432316415180882007-10-17T15:27:00.000+02:002007-10-17T15:27:00.000+02:00Hi Flocon ! /*/ …/… Thanks for your slightly OT co...Hi Flocon !<BR/><BR/> <BR/>/*/ …/… Thanks for your slightly OT comment. I didn't know the topic of the post was the EU. …/… /*/<BR/><BR/><BR/>Amerloque didn't think the comment was OT, or he wouldn't have made it. (grin) He was simply trying to address (albeit awkwardly) the issue of "enemies" and "paranoia" by speaking to an issue closer to home (wider grin)<BR/><BR/> <BR/>/*/ …/… I'm all in L'Amerloquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03447075237256204460noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-186849324750028115.post-20810759583874109072007-10-17T14:51:00.000+02:002007-10-17T14:51:00.000+02:00Thanks for the post Flocon and thanks for the expl...Thanks for the post Flocon and thanks for the explanation on Superdupont but I can't help looking at the image of Superdupont and then looking at the image of Superfrenchie and thinking that they somehow share not only the same sartorial tastes but also the same thinking.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-186849324750028115.post-12870677784154291382007-10-17T10:52:00.000+02:002007-10-17T10:52:00.000+02:00Hi LA,Thanks for passing by. I wrote the post in E...Hi LA,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for passing by. I wrote the post in English just in case you would be kind enough to spend some of your precious time at "Shall we talk".<BR/><BR/>As you may guess, I have to disagree with you here.<BR/><BR/>//paranoia would be if we had stopped some attempts at attacks, with none of them being successful.//<BR/><BR/>I'm afraid I simply don't understand what you mean. We Floconhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02152293520895506516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-186849324750028115.post-8875733640801445942007-10-17T10:33:00.000+02:002007-10-17T10:33:00.000+02:00Hi l'amerloque,Thanks for your slightly OT comment...Hi l'amerloque,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for your slightly OT comment. I didn't know the topic of the post was the EU.<BR/><BR/>I'm all in favour of the Poles withdrawing from the EU as soon as they give back the hundreds millions of Euros they've received.<BR/>Should they be asked now whether Europe is the "ennemy" of Poland and draw the consequences (no more subsidies) I'm not so sure they would see it Floconhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02152293520895506516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-186849324750028115.post-24048448604698745202007-10-17T02:51:00.000+02:002007-10-17T02:51:00.000+02:00Hi Flocon,1. What Amerloque said.2. I do not see i...Hi Flocon,<BR/><BR/>1. What Amerloque said.<BR/><BR/>2. I do not see it as paranoia. paranoia would be if we had stopped some <B>attempts</B> at attacks, with none of them being successful. <B>Then</B>, you <B>might</B> be able to make a case.<BR/><BR/>But the reality of the situation is, they <B>were</B> successful, they <B>did</B> hit us, and it becomes <B>much</B> more of a reality, when you LA Sunsethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00445498119590721449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-186849324750028115.post-79044598161750000942007-10-16T17:28:00.000+02:002007-10-16T17:28:00.000+02:00Hi Flocon !/*/ …/… Not a single French newspaper, ...Hi Flocon !<BR/><BR/><BR/>/*/ …/… Not a single French newspaper, or even European for that matter (save for the Poles maybe...), would dare use the expression "the enemies of Germany", "the enemies of France (that would have everybody burst in laugh), "the enemies of Spain" etc. Not that these countries have only friends but they're mentally safe enough not to resort to any paranoid stance …/… /*L'Amerloquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03447075237256204460noreply@blogger.com